Joint practices are quickly passing preseason games as the preferred method for NFL teams to get ready for the regular season. They may one day completely replace them, in fact. Either way, this is the best method for seeing where your team stands compared to live competition with just weeks to go before the real games begin.

Teams’ win-loss records aren’t even on the line yet, and fights are already breaking out this fall. On Thursday, a brawl erupted between the Green Bay Packers and Seattle Seahawks at a joint practice.

The Packers host the Seattle Seahawks in Green Bay this week for joint practice and an Aug. 23 preseason game at Lambeau Field.